Hi everyone,
I just wanted to do a bit of research really, and hope you will help .
If you check my profile you will see that I have tried to be honest and explain why I am a member of this site. I gather that I am not the only person that is in a relationship where one partner has a much higher sex drive than the other (women included in this by the way - it's not all about men ): this can cause a lot of disharmony and friction but both partners love each other to much to seperate. My wife has a very low sex drive and is not prepared to make any change: she wants to have her cake all to herself without sharing, keeping it under the cover until she feels like she wants a bite - and I'm expected to be happy with this, which I'm not but love her too much to leave. :cry:
I want to know if women are against meets with single guys like myself, and why when there is a legitimate reason for people joining the site for that reason. Please don't say 'visit a prostitute' as that's so lacking in understanding
I sometimes feel there are dual standards at work: why is it there are so many people looking only for bi girls and bi guys , especially couples, yet very few are interested in single, older guys :-? It's like it's OK if the man wants more fun but not necessarily the woman if you get my drift. Do women join just to please their partner?
Perhaps you will be kind enough to give your opinion, and please keep it nice - I'm trying to get some real feed-back on this to help myself and others.
Thanks :clap: :D [B]
Post edited 02-08-2007 12:17
well done doc for saying something sensible :clap:
we joined as a couple cos fortunately we both have a high sex drive :devil:
we dont advertise that we want a single man to join us for the following reasons:
there are so many single men on site that we would be reading messages til midnight every night
certain single men on this site behave badly towards women and couples in the chat room - im sure you have seen this doc, they give the decent single men a bad name.
we were wary of single men who then said they were married when we first joined the site - but having met a few already and now that their reasons are genuine.
I think its about getting yourself known on the site and trying to go to big site meets - im sure doc that once people get to know you in person then they will view your reasons for being on here as we do.
good luck in finding the right couple or single fem for you
As a personal preference we would not meet anyone who was in a relationship but swinging on there own, we have nothing against anyone that does, It's your life.
We meet Bi Females for the fact that as a couple we both get pleasure out of it, it has nothing to do with the female only doing it for the male. Whereas if we were to meet a single male only where is the pleasure for the male half?
Well said by Lolly and Mindy. Its not our cup of tea either to meet single males regardless whether they are in a relationship or not, and if we every do decide to meet a single male then we would pick one that we have got to know (and there are them out there), and doesn't abuse people in the chatroom, either by words or trying to get people to do things on cam for them.
What i can say is that i've spoken many times with Doc, and he comes across as a genuine guy who respects others in the chatroom and never ask's anyone to preform for him when they are on cam. You are certainly one of the good guys Doc and i hope that you find someone soon.
have to say on this occasion we agree with mork n mindy . Its one of those tricky situations ain't it :-? Doc we have spoken to you in the chatroom and you seem like a genuine guy and an honest one at that. However it's the secrets within the marriage that we don't agree with sorry and thats why we would not meet a man in a relationship without his other half please don't take it personally it's only our humble opinion Not everyone will agree with us so on this note Doc hope you find someone soon and good luck xxxxx
Post edited 02-08-2007 14:42
Hello Doc,
well as a single fem on here with a partner at home i had to read and have my say on this.
1st i need to know if your wife knows u belong to this site and is happy for you to meet others for sexual fun. depending on this answer will depend on what i say...
but remember your profile starts of with
" HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY "
I'll wait for Your answer till i say more..
mwah
MO_XX
Thanks to everyone that has posted comments :clap:. I'll try and clarify a coupleof points.
Mindy: I appreciate what you say and understand that. Perhaps it is the male partner that enjoys watching the lady with another woman, but it could also be the male watching her with another male - hence the enjoyment.8)
Mo_ : I have sent you a personal message but not placed it on here as it is rather long
I take the point made by several that they do not meet guys in a relationship, but does that also apply to single females? :-? And how can yoiu tell for definate whether someone is being honest? A friend could easily pose as the other partner if proof was asked for, or am I being too cynical?
Hence the comment about dual standards
I am not out to hurt anyone,including myself, nor to find a new relationship. As I've said I love my wife but sometimes we have to do things covertly if we want to keep a relationship together. Governments do it to us all the time in order to protect us - what we don't know cannot hurt us as they say.
Keep the posts coming, it's a good debate I think.
Yes there is enjoyment in that you are right, we have met some great single guys and will continue to do so, but there is nothing quite like being with another woman with my husband.
For us yes that does include single females, We would not meet [B]anyone[/B] that had a partner, whether the partner knows about it or not, As you say, the situation could easily be cheated.
Now let me think... did i join to please my partner... no blumin way !
We wanted to swing coz we hadn't done at that time we'd remained perfectly faithful for 15 yrs and thought we we're ready for an adventure that and we'll never knock anything we havent tried (apart from anal...
we do meet single males but would NEVER meet a person who was married male or female for the sole fact we spoke about this slot before hand and came up with ground rules, one of which was that we'd never do anything to make someone cry and in my interpretation of that i feel if i met someone's partner without them knowing... they'd cry.
I feel a rule that like as strict as that can be in some circumstances, gets a bit of a raw deal but for us, thats just how it is.
As you we're saying.. we all have our reasons and after speaking to you in chat so long i don'd doubt you for a second thats not what i'm saying.
Anyhow before i have a dizzy blonde fingered moment i'll leave you be xx
Happy huntinng and i hope that clears something up (not sure what!)
Speak to you in chat
xx kc xx :rainbow:
Post edited 02-08-2007 18:36
Hello Doc, and thank you for the very long reply to my mail box
Ok this might be long and a little mixed up as i have mixed view's.. all tho i Never judge ANYONE we all have our reasons for doing things in our lives that others will agree or disagree what makes us all great and different in our own ways. wouldn't life be boring if we all agreed and did the same things.
Ok 1st you Have been honest and told everyone on the site about your situation, that deserves respect," you could have just lied" most do. None of us really know if someone is un married or not, how can we, well unless we become private detectives and stake out a persons for tho's who do meet single guys u may well have met or played with a married man already. at least this one is honest to you all and up front.
Doc i would say there is a mixed bunch on the site, there are cpls out there who want to meet single guys either for there wives to play with, or for there hubby to watch there wives with another guy, or even for the cpl to be just watched and poss be filmed etc.
There are also single lady's out there who would be happy to meet " once they know you and feel safe" or even 2 fems who would like a single guy to play with.
Or if the single guy has a bi side then there are bi cpls mf and mm..
I would say all these are here on the sp site, it just takes time and chat to find them. Or a social event to come face to face with them.
Cpls who have a bi lady and a str guy are almost 99% looking for another cpl or a single bi fem... like lots have said every one gets something from that .. and lets be honest everyone wants something.
Doc Your own situation is your own business and for no one else to judge as none of us know the ins and outs, there are always 2 feel you are missing something from your wife and so looking else where " hence u being on this site" whether we are single or a cpl we are all here cos were looking for something else.
All you cpls out there have something very special being able to love your partner enough to allow them to have sex with someone else while being apart of it, thats special.
Doc says he loves his wife very much and couldn't leave her, thats special too, hes just missing the special sex side of it, at least hes not having an affair, swinging is just a nice way to have sex with others.
As long as your honest with people on here which u have been, then its for them to decide if they play with you or not, but not for them to judge you because your married.
They have a choice to say thank you but no thanks.
you will find ones that will say thanks and not mind what your back ground is, stay with it doc, so far every true swinger i have met has been a polite one.
Did that make any sense
:lol:
Mwah
Mo_ xx
WOW
Many thanks for that Mo :clap: You have done more than you imagine, as you have been very explicit in explaining what we are here for, and pointed out that that some may have been with a married/attached person without thier knowledge.
Thank you for your suportive comments and I'm happy you all can see I'm genuine enough - perhaps peeps will be more understanding now at least.
I have also received email from peeps that don't want to post in the forum for several reasons. Again these have been supportive and enlightening, so thank you for those.
This is a debate that could go on and on. At least it is an area where choice is the key factor; you cna choose to have a meet with someone in a relationship or not - but please don't rush to judge them. If you find out they have lied AFTER a meet it is up to you how to deal with that. As I've advocated strongly in my posts, honesty IS the best policy.
I'll continue chatting in the room with you all as I actually do enjoy being there and the banter that goes on. The cam shows are also very entertaining :devil: :clap:
Meet you there :D
ok you have asked why some of us think it is wrong for married males or indeed married females to use this site, call themselves swingers, go to swing clubs, arrange meets on a swinging basis, well the reason is exactly that, we are swingers, we do NOT cheat of our partners, we do what we do with our partners consent.
If you want to cheat on your partner go to one of the hundreds of websites for that purpose ie Married and Cheating chatroom, very popular and based all over the world, (incidently swingers are banned from this chatroom as only those cheating on partners are allowed in it so if your a swinging couple and want to have a look at it pretend your a cheat)
We never understand why married males and females want to use swingers rooms when there are adequate facilities for them elsewhere on the net, would you use a gay room to find a woman ? or a lesbian room to find a man ? if not why use a swingers room to find people happy to cheat or play with those cheating ?
We think it is one of the things that brings the whole swinging lifestyle into disrepute and therefore would never play with a male or female who is cheating or for that matter a couple made up of cheating people.
As for the second point in this forum
"I sometimes feel there are dual standards at work: why is it there are so many people looking only for bi girls and bi guys , especially couples, yet very few are interested in single, older guys It's like it's OK if the man wants more fun but not necessarily the woman if you get my drift. Do women join just to please their partner?"
The answer to this seems obvious, it's purely down to mathematics and taste, many people become swingers because what they find a turn on is not available everywhere else, I am in a happy relationship but the one thing my partner cannot give me is the pleasure I get from playing with another woman, an older guy I can get (and have) easily, so bi men, bi women find the scene attractive for this very purpose, if couples want older guys they can find them anywhere, whereas 98% of women at clubs are bisexual, and go to a bi night at a club and find lots of bi guys.
Strong views.....but I have to disagree about using the websites you recommend. Perhaps what I'm looking for is not available in them, I might just enjoy watching a couple or group rather than just wanting to cheat on my partner.
Why do you feel that people such as myself bring swingers into disrepute? Everyone has choices in life and how they live their lives, spend their money, etc. Not all on this site are the same as yourselves and have the same opinion I'm pleased to say.
ok my two pence worth i feel.
brill thread not the usual thanks xxxx
right time for me to tell my story as to why im here .
hold on... good god i have mail......flipping heck. thought id been forgotten lol brb oo its like christmass ... bet its robbie w again god man leave me alone pleaseees
we have been married for 18 years very happily to. my hubs has MND and is turminally ill. this has its obviouse problems . i enjoy being physicall close to a man nothing like a hug im not so intrested in a shag for shags sake nor am i looking for a new husband rathe a freind that is understanding and able to help me mentaly through this awfull time.
my husband knows i see folk hes happy if im safe and happy.
SINGHLE MEN ARE FAB THE ONES IV TAKEN THE TIME TO BE BOTHERD TO GET TO KNOW. wernt husbands not single males b4 we married them?????
forgive me but swinging is not all about sex and shagging. i respect as im sure we all do my bed buddy (yes im bi) but im picking up the vibe that married peeps arnt welcome ? i do hope not as a fair few of the members here would have to go.
so in short i play because i enjoy being relaxed and when im with "swingers" i have nothing to proove hide or any thing .
gggeeezzz i ebven wore a mini dress to mk some thing id no way do in vanilla life...
We think you missed a point there bibigtits, you say your married and have your husbands consent, therefore your not married and cheating your doing what you do with your partners consent or in other words doing what swingers do best.
Thats my whole point, though I would be quick to point out that it is our thoughts and we understand that not everyone feels like we do.
We think that Doc Martin is wrong to presume that the other sites (the married and cheating) sites are unsuitable, they offer everything that swing sites offer, company, social events, chatrooms, cam rooms, a place to organise meets for sex, in fact they offer a lot more facilities for social meeting than swing sites do as they believe that a lot of their members are missing the affection, hugs n kisses of relationships than the sex in them.
In the chatroom we will talk to those that are married and cheating without prejudice, ill feeling or any other attitude, they choose to do what they do in the same way we choose to do what we do, but if you open a thread and ask the question, expect some replies that don't agree with your own.
ohhhh this is getting HOT.. i think we should live and let live..every one is different and everyone has there idea of what is right and wrong...
its all about
AWARENESS- notice what is happening
CHOICE- there is always an option, choose carefully
DECISION-decide what you want
ACTION-nothing happens without action
mwah MO_XX
:P
mmmmm i seem to have missed the point ?
lolol
and as choise is upper most here can i chose a spank for not listening to the forum ?
dam it got me nail stuck in mt stockings so i can remove my pants for me spnk ,
bugger. :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
but yes seriously its choice and tolerance xxxxx
It would appear I opened a can of worms :O
I don't know about the sites you've mentioned, but you seem to know a lot about them. Maybe I AM on the wrong site through my ignorance. :-o
Still I have not pressurised anyone nor been offencive; I believed I would find what I was looking for on this site, unfortunately I may be wrong - but I love a challenge and enjoy chatting so I'll stay for now if that's OK.
So whatever your opinion thank you for giving me (and others I suspect) some good feed-back. I sincerely hope non of you have been mislead or lied to by single peeps you have met -- but there is always that very real possibility.
One observation I will make is that swingers are probably safer and more discreet than the marriage cheating sites. People in open relationships are more likelyto be careful about who they play with, which is one of my reasons for being here.
This is an excellent discussion, this is what the message boards are for, or at least some of the boards.
The question was asked
"I want to know if women are against meets with single guys like myself, and why when there is a legitimate reason for people joining the site for that reason."
For the most part the answer seems to be "live and let live" well not me, some things are important to me, swinging is one of them, I will not let a paeodophile "live and let live" just because I don't agree with his views but think he should have his right to them and neither would any of you nor will I be a hypocrit and say that some things are ok to allow and some things are not.
Yes the crime is not quite as bad, but where do you draw the line, the question is should people who are cheating on their partners be welcomed into the swinging scene, I think not, swingers have enough bigots to contend with without leaving ourselves open to the "it breaks up marriages" and "you steel husbands and wives".
The gentleman in question says he does it because his wife will not conform to his wishes, so he has to cheat on her, it is not for him a question of curbing his desires and conforming to what she wants.
He does not explain why he choosed to use swingers sites and the swinging lifestyle when there are other options available to him ie the married and cheating sites mentioned in earlier messages, he appears to just want our acceptance that what he is doing is ok because in his mind it is justified.
As swingers you should all know that the consent part of what we do is what makes it good. no lame exuses, we enjoy sex, we enjoy variety but we don't do it at our partners expense or that of our families.
If you partner, husband or wife is not interested in sex or cant preform for any reason and then gives the other person permission to find that else where it not cheating because the other half has given there consent to have sex with other people. Yes there is married people or people that have a partner that doesn't know that they are a member and take part in swinging activities then they are cheating on there other half. The thing with swinging sites is that people can have adult fun without the complications of a emotionly getting involved with someone else.
We have seen plenty of couple break up due to the swinging scene, and not all have been single. But to join and have sex with other people then there own relationship has to be strong. There is people when something is missing in there relationship turn to swinging to try and fix the problem, like others (non swingers) have children to try and fix it, as we all know this wont work. It is so important to have personnel rules and never break them, and to talk to each other. Without these then it wont work in the swinging scene.
You all must understand that people are on here for there own reasons. Some are here just to chat and go to socials, some just want sex, and some want to make friends and enjoy adult fun. What ever reason why someone is on here is there business, and i dont believe its up for discussion.
We welcome anyone to the site regardless there marital status and there reasons. We are all here to have fun, so come on everyone Docmartin only ask a question and there is people out there will understand his position and be happy to accomodate him.
You do find out through the chat who is cheating on there other halfs and people will stay away, but when you have there permission there here just like any other single person.
Quite right JD - DocMartin only asked a question, and of course he should expect that not everyone will give him answers he agrees with. (And I'm sure he expected that would be the case)
I can't help feel that some people are being a little over-agressive in their answers though. Kaynie says "For the most part the answer seems to be "live and let live" well not me..." What a shame. The vast majority of people on this site are very tolerant and fair-minded; it's what makes it a good site. She also asks "where do you draw the line?" Well, you seem very confident in where all your lines are drawn, and where other people should be drawing theirs too, so I guess you should be able to answer that question for yourself.
There is room on this site for all sorts of different people, with different backgrounds, and different reasons for being here. If Doc was going around meeting people without telling them about his marital situation, then I agree that that would be unacceptable behaviour because the other party would not have the chance to exercise their right to decline on moral grounds. However, he isn't - he's being honest and up-front about it. If both parties know the situation in advance and are all happy with it, then that is entirely up to them and no one else should take it upon themselves to judge either of them.
Welll thank you for the last 2 comments, which I think answer a lot of points. :clap: :clap: To re-iterate my own position on this site as opposed to the married and cheating sites....... I enjoy the chat that I can have here with people, which has not been overly sexual but good honest adult fun with quite a lot of serious discussion on a variety of topics. I hope I have been able to help and support some members as well As to trying to get meets I have never pressured anyone, as couples that I have been in contact with can verify, nor have I ever been rude or abusive.... if ever I have been picked up for something by a moderator I have apologised immediately :red:
I'm not sure what kaynie and jed want from me, and I do feel that I have been picked on a little but,as sudsy pointed out, I expected something like this to occur. As long as it helps others then that's fine, but don't make it personal please 8) There are a large number of members I suspect that are here without their partner's knowledge and have a very active sex life. You can never tell who is being honest, and I wonder if some really care despite all the talk of morals. Oh, and I don't like the inference to paedophiles and myself :fury: if I had my way they would be stoned to death or burned at the stake :mad: as they are not fit to breathe the same air as the rest of us. There is NO excuse for their behaviour and, if their is a :devil: I'm sure he will accept them with open arms into the after life! :mad:
Yes I did join to try and meet people in an effort to fill in the gap in my own sex life: it is not easy talking about something like this with a partner and getting their permission . My wife and I have discussed our relationship and she remains adamant that she will not do anything she does not want to. Am I supposed to just roll over like a submissive dog and accept that kaynie? :-? I wonder if you would .... I suspect not judging from your current swinging life style: what if jed turned round and said he was not happy with you being free to go with whom you please whenever you please, especially women?
In support of kaynie and jed I think they just want to express their own opinion, and some of this will be shared by others if not all of it: at least they have voiced themselves and all credit for doing so.
Live and let live within reason , as long as nobody gets hurt and nobody is made to :cry: I enjoy having adult debate and discussions: it does make a change from banal chit chat don't you agree?
On a lighter note my wife made a joke about being due on her period when we are away on holiday: I made a coment that her vagina was probably getting tighter due to lack of use, a condition termed 'atrophy', which happens with old age.. I then jokingly said I had a beautiful wife with a gorgeous figure with the c..t of a 90 year old! Surprisingly we both burst out laughing!
:clap:
Post edited 05-08-2007 11:52
Of course we have our opinion, that is what we have been saying in all our posts to this thread and it is OUR opinion and we know that not everyone agrees with us, thank heavens for that, we have tried to be honest and helpful by adding our opinion to this thread, some will be against what Doc wants to do, some will be for it, at the end of the day it does not matter what anyone thinks, Doc must do what he feels most comfortable doing, that in essesence is swinging, doing what you do and feeling comfortable about it without offending others, Doc and his actions don't offend us, we know some people prefer to meet guys who are married and cheating as they believe there is less likelihood of these guys running around shouting about what happened and thats a fair train of thought.
Doc asked for opinions and we gave ours, that is what he wanted honest answers not patronising comments, if he didn't want honest answers he wouldn't have asked the question. When we see doc in the chatroom we always say hello, if he speaks to us we answer politely as we do with everyone else, we do not treat him in any way different to the way we treat anyone else, but he asked for opinions and we gave ours, if having our opinion has upset any of you then we are sorry. We also have a lot of respect for Doc for being honest about what he does and letting people make their own choice as to wether they want to be a part of it or not, it is not all negative.
Do we think Doc or anyone like him should leave the site or not be allowed in it, of course we don't, we don't agree with what he does but who are we to decide what others should do, him or others like him or those that want to play with him, an opinion is an opinion freely given at his request and nothing more.
And finally it is a good question, one that needed to be asked, thank you Doc for giving us and others a chance to comment, that is one of the good things about sites like this and forums, forums a place to air opinions.....
Well this has been a good debate, and some very strong views people have, thats what makes us ALL such interesting people.
I would like to say.. when I say "live and let live" i mean if Im not being hurt or my family and friends then let others do what they feel is right for them,when paeodophile was mentioned i feel that is a totally different thing, that is a very ill individual where one person, child which ever the case maybe has not given there consent. I have very strong views on this subject which would take forever to chat about, and not on a forum.
what Doc has been saying hes looking for and wanting to do, would be all consenting people, its a totally different thing.
Kaynie SAID ..the question is should people who are cheating on their partners be welcomed into the swinging scene, I think not, swingers have enough bigots to contend with without leaving ourselves open to the "it breaks up marriages" and "you steel husbands and wives".
Kaynie.. i am a little confused to what u have said here, as you say later on that u have nothing against Doc being here and you always talk to him.. yet i this bit above you are saying they shouldn't be welcomed in to the swing world...
I would be interested to know what you think to people who don't swing but have joined the site... do you feel they shouldn't be here as well?
MWAHH
MO_ XX
Well I'm a little confused Mo, as I was under the impression you were [B]NOT [/B]against people like myself using the site yet here you say you don't think we should be here. :-? As for the bit about paedophiles, consent, etc. then I'm right behind you :clap: :clap: (not :doggy: tho I wish I could )
I've at least found a release for some of my sexual frustration by being on this site. Although I have not had any success in 'cheating'(eye: )on my partner I have enjoyed here for the fun and the opportunity to have some sexual banter on line which harms nobody . The cams are great and it's wonderful that some peeps like to put on a show for the rest of the room as well. I also think that the ability to have your own 'private' chat room isgreat and allows those who wish to be more intimate yet private can do so without offending others.
There is something for everyone, and, provided peeps are honest from the start, there is always a chance they will find what they are looking for.
[B]I'm glad you have enjoyed this debate and have all been honest in your opinions. I'm quite content to continue as I am as I do not feel I am any threat to any of you, nor do I beleive I should not be here.... as you say 'live and let live' provided it's consentual and nobody is getting hurt [/B]
:)
Post edited 07-08-2007 10:11
Post edited 07-08-2007 10:13
hi doc spoke to you in chat room few times you seem a nice guy. i am with kc on this one would never meet with guy who is married and on as a single guy, just doesnt seem right to me. anyway good luck. angie x
I get the feeling that is the general consensus of opinion, and I respect that :clap:
[B]It is and never was my intention to try and trick peeps: if it were I would never have posted this thread.[/B] However I hope it has made members realise that there are peeps posting themselves as singles (or even couples) that are not being honest and some of you may well have been duped into having meets. These may even have proved very enjoyable and you have no regrets..... but would you feel hurt and upset by the fact that these peeps were not being honest, or would you no longer care after the event took place?
I understand the fact that many couples have a bi female, and that this is why there are so few looking for single males. As I've said before in the chat room I understand women getting pleasure form other women but not men ( and no I'm not homophobic ) Why? well simply because women are so much harder to please: us men know what we want and reach our goal relatively fast. Whereas women like to take time and savour the pleasure and enjoyment: they also have the ability to have more than one orgasm
[B]I hope some of the 'pretenders' have taken note of what's been said on this thread and reconsider their position in terms of honesty and being up front about themselves.[/B] I am not looking for an affair, just sexual satisfaction without any committments. I do not wish to turn to a prostitute due to all the diseases that are more probable to prevail in that area, nor do I wish to pay lots of money for a quickie that I would personally find totally unsatisfactory - just as easy to have a :wank: even if it does not feel the same :cry:
We all need sexual love and affection, it is far more human to do it with like-minded peeps than having to pay a professional.
Post edited 07-08-2007 11:45
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If you check my profile you will see that I have tried to be honest and explain why I am a member of this site. I gather that I am not the only person that is in a relationship where one partner has a much higher sex drive than the other (women included in this by the way - it's not all about men 
): this can cause a lot of disharmony and friction but both partners love each other to much to seperate. My wife has a very low sex drive and is not prepared to make any change: she wants to have her cake all to herself without sharing, keeping it under the cover until she feels like she wants a bite - and I'm expected to be happy with this, which I'm not but love her too much to leave. :cry:
I want to know if women are against meets with single guys like myself, and why when there is a legitimate reason for people joining the site for that reason. Please don't say 'visit a prostitute' as that's so lacking in understanding 
I sometimes feel there are dual standards at work: why is it there are so many people looking only for bi girls and bi guys , especially couples, yet very few are interested in single, older guys :-? It's like it's OK if the man wants more fun but not necessarily the woman if you get my drift. Do women join just to please their partner?
Perhaps you will be kind enough to give your opinion, and please keep it nice - I'm trying to get some real feed-back on this to help myself and others.
Thanks :clap: :D [B]
Post edited 02-08-2007 12:17
we dont advertise that we want a single man to join us for the following reasons:
there are so many single men on site that we would be reading messages til midnight every night
certain single men on this site behave badly towards women and couples in the chat room - im sure you have seen this doc, they give the decent single men a bad name.
we were wary of single men who then said they were married when we first joined the site - but having met a few already and now that their reasons are genuine.
I think its about getting yourself known on the site and trying to go to big site meets - im sure doc that once people get to know you in person then they will view your reasons for being on here as we do.
good luck in finding the right couple or single fem for you
I am not out to hurt anyone,including myself, nor to find a new relationship. As I've said I love my wife but sometimes we have to do things covertly if we want to keep a relationship together. Governments do it to us all the time in order to protect us - what we don't know cannot hurt us as they say.
Keep the posts coming, it's a good debate I think.
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